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~ - -- ;:,i:CT ION 4 62-fHQ~3894 l1£CT!~ 4 SE-RIAL C ~3~-1 85 iRiiS 131-185 PICKE REET ~ ..... Q: 0 r=:. u.. n :t­ ..... - C :, ~ FBI - CENTRAL RECORDS CENTER 1• ~ .. fll a, HQ - HEADQUARTERS Class I Case # Sub Vol. Serial# ~ 185 ~ ~l z - ~ ~ ! ...., I: ,... ~,== cc CG I ..... . • - ~ ,,,.-- 4 ~ ._ I 0 u.. ,. . ~ 'S ::, ~ ~ ::) 0062 83894 4 131 8/11/1274191 1111111111111111 RRP003IXGX ... , Office > - f Memu,,,,,,,rlum • UNITED ST. v~OVERNMENT TO : DIRJYJTOR, FBI DATE: October 9, 1947 c,JoM : SAC, PORTLAND l SUBJECT:[ FLYrnG DISCS SECURITY MATTER - X. Reference is made to Portland teletype dated September 13, 194?. Records of the Radio Dispatcher, Portland Police Department, reflect that first notice of unidentified objects in flight over the city on September 11, 1947 was received from officers in District 18, which is in the extreme north­ east section of the city, at 5:21 P.M. The log further reflects that at 5:23 P.M. the radio requested District 14, which is further south, to attempt to locate and identify the objects and that at 5:24 P.M. a report was received from the car occupied by Chief of Police JENKINS, reporting that they had sighted some objects. District 14 at 5:27 P.M. reported seeing nothing unusual in the sky. ROBERT D. ADAIR; 4325 S.E. Madison Ave., Portland, advised that he was one of the two officers on duty in District 18 on September 11. 'lhe car was in the vicinity of N.E. 25th Avenue and Saratoga Court when ADAIR and his fellow officer noticed a number of people looking upward and pointing. Upon looking at the sky ADAIR observed the very bright reflection of the sun on some object which was apparently made of silvery metal. The object was coming from the east and made a wide turn over the city and disappeared to the south. ADAIR estimated its speed at about 150 miles per hour and its altitude at about 5,000 feet. He watched it for a period of about two minutes and during that time it gradually disappeared in such a manner as to appear that the angle was slowly changing, so that the sun was no longer reflected into ADAIR's eyes. He says that the shape appeared to be round but that the glare was so bright that it could have hidden the true outline of the object. '!here was no oscillation visible - only steady flight. ADAIR believes it was an ordinary metal airplane reflecting light of the afternoon sun. , , 1 :mnau:r, 1t'l'-'l J. R. CALDWELL, 7652 S. E. Lincoln St., Portland, Oregon was ADAffi's partner in District 18 on September ll. CALDWELL states that the object appeai­ red to him to take the same course as that described by ADAIR. He pointed out that the speed, height, and size of the object were difficult to judge, because of the interdependence of the three factors. However, he believes that the object vrhen first sighted was about three miles away and about two miles high. He believes it was traveling at a much greater speed than a conventional aii­ plane and was a great deal larger. It appeared t o him to be elliptical in shape, and inasmuch as it did not bank or tip he could not judge its thickness. It was of a very bright silver o~ ~ su tanco. RJiJCORDEn i J -i -93 "F~ ~✓::,OH 19 C f 9 COPIES DESTROYED 2 7 0 NOV 18 l 9b4 o l .... ... • :1 • 5' n a,, flit ov £I 1 Nu• • • • Nos,vn A ,'J3t1 PD 62-1531 Chief of Police LEON V. JENKINS advised that he was travelling south on N. Williams Avenue near Russell St., when he and Officer H. s. RANEY, his driver, received a call on the police radio requesting District 14 to attempt to observe an unknown object in the sky reported by officers in District 18. JENKINS observed what appeared to be a round silver object, about 10,000 feet high, travelling northeast to southwest. It was directly to JENKIN's left ffllen observed first. He thought it was a weather balloon. Further observation con­ vinced him that it could not be a balloon because of its speed which was extreme­ ly great. As JENKINS watched, it turned gradually until it was travelling due south, and as it did so, its shape seemed to change until it appeared to be egg-shaped. It disappeared in· about 30 seconds. Patrolman H. s. RANEY stated that when he first observed the object it was straight ahead of him and travelling straight away from his car. RANEY was driving south on N. Williams Avenue. To RANEY it appeared to be just a glare of sun on some object, and he was unable therefore to tell its shape. It appeared to be very high and travelling extremely fast. It was out of sight after he had travelled 4 or 5 city blocks at a speed of about 25 mph. RANEY stated that he has never seen an object at such an extreme height before and that if the sun had not reflected from it he could not have seen it at all. He believes it could possibly have been a reflection from a large airplane at great altitude. ROBERT W. SHAYLOR, 4810 N. Fessenden St., Portland stated that he was on duty in District 14 with Officer DONALD r'l. CO,JLit{G on September 11, 1947 and received the call to watch for the object flying over the city. SHAYLOR and COWLING-immediately scaMed the sky f rom a vantage point in open territory where they could see the entire sky. They saw nothing in the sky at that time, SHAil.OR stating that they did not even see any airplanes. A short article in "'lhe Oregonian", Portland daily newspaper, for September 12, 1947, describes the object as seen by Chief of Police JENKINS and also states that 11The Oregonian" received several calls from other persons reporting the object. FRED M. WHITE, Assistant City Editor, advised that the paper has no record of the identities of the people making the calls. 62-1531 IHK:tkw -- TO ,, c:!Jr--aoM SAC, SUBJECT: te Memor • m • UNITED ST/i JVERNMENT - DATE: 10/18/47 Director, FBI Anchorage ( REPORT OF FLYING DISCS This is to advise that we have been able to locate a .flyer, JA~K, who is employed by the Al Jones Flying Compa.cy in Bethel, .Alaska. It bad been ~ported to Military Intelligence that Mr. PECK and his co-pilot VIN AJJi bad observed sane flying object near Bethel, Alaska, in July, 194 Eff or ts previously to contact Mr. PECK were negative until the above instance. He related that the occasion of seeing the flying object near Bethel was on a July day when the sky was completely clear of clouds, am it being during the early part, it is daylight the entire night. The time of bis sighting this flying object was about 10 FM and the sun had just dropped beyom the horizon. Flyir€ weather was extremely good am he, with Mr . DALY, was coming into the Bethel Airport with a DC-J. He observed the flyiq,; object immediately to his left alli stated that it apparently was observed at approximately the same time by Mr. DAIX am both of them· manipulated the controls of the plane ma.king efforts to miss the object inasmuch as they could not tell in which direction it was going. They made a forty-five degree t urn in order to get out of the way of the object arxi then noted that it appeared to be going away from them. He described the object as appearing to be some flying wing arxi s said that it appeared to be about the size of a C-54 without any fuselage. He could not see any propellor or any exhaust f r om jet propulsion or any vapor trails arxi could not estimate the size due to his failure to be able to estimate the distance he was away from the object. He was flying at 1, 000 feet and stated that he tried to catch up with the object am in­ creased his manifold pressure to approximately 42 inc hes am was traveli!)g at the rate of 170 miles per hour. ~t.A-,,L­ '-. cc:::::: He called on his radio to the Civil Aeronautics J,dminis­ tration station at Bethel, asking what aircraf't was in the vicinity am they bad no reports of any aircraft. The object he sighted vras some five or ten miles from the airport before his arrival and stated that the path did not go directly across the airport. He, of course, could not tell whether the object was making aey noise arxi stated that it was flying at a thousand foot altittrle am estimated travel at 300 miles per hour. It was travel ing in the direction from Bethel to Nome, which is in a northwesterly direction. He noted no radio interference and is unable to describe the color other than that it appeared dark but of definite shape and did not bl erxi into the sky but had a definite, concise outline. a oth he and Mr. DALY clearly observed the object at this time. ~JtJo OR.u,el) ,/ g ~ ii::lCD \bl:1J 8'7T- I ~ \"?:>\ p acr ~rx1•i . ~ O'), ~~~ ( QIJJ!' ~ Anchorage File 100-1406 It may be stated to the Bureau that Mr. , PECK is a well known flyer as well as Mr. DALY am both are known to be very reliable and responsible people• am it appears def'inite that they observed something. The above is being submitted for the information of the Bureau. LOT: I1,1R 100-1406 TO / /j)1-noM SUBJECT: Diraotor. FBI SAC, Albany FLYING DISCS./ A. COURTNEV'.i?ARKER., INFORMAm Reurlet dated 9/25/47• DATE : llovember 1. 1947 .An. Agent of this office contacted Mr. A. COURXNEY PARKER at his resi• denoe in South Royalton. Vermont and he stated that all the information he has con­ cerning the flying disos he saw. is set forth in the letter that he sent to the Bureau dated September 17• 1947. Ur. PARKER advised that as far as he knows~ no one else in South Royalton saw these flying discs., and that he believes ha saw them inasmuch as he haa wiwmally good eyesight and th.at he can see bees. etc. further than anyone else. He stated that possibly these flying discs '\'18re out 0£ the range of llOrmal vision. Jlr. PARKEB was asked to furnish any additional information that comas to his at'..ention conoa:-;1i~ t.hase flying discs directly to the Air Forces since they now handle matters of this type. RCC:mf's 62-689 .. -- .. .. No further action ia being taken by this office. •JiiOORDD. ' .rm,E'XD 1r.2;.abi'L \ ~ s :I. 31 NOV iQA1 , t ,, :{J .. •,·e ·.:1 ~ 1.111no3s 7~N"3J.Ni .:, HJ Bs i, l/ At 031tl3:J31:1 • _/J-~~~·t J,1,'- )/~ t~ v ~ L I • • Mrs. nu \ llouenber 1, 1947 Sa'J ?ll'-J!L/ • A..1fcCaul 70-33 68th Place Glendale Brooklun, New Tork Dear Urs. l!cCaul: Your lett er postriarked October 28, 1947, has been received and l want ~o ezpress apprectatton to you .tor havt ,ig written as you, d id. S incerely yours, John Edgar Ooover JJi rsc-tor NOTE: This woman rambles on and furnishes no specific information about anything. -~i \\\\~'),i ' \ i~\ ~\.~ s i , . I .., '" .... ' .. ,,. B? 9/ /2 November 10, 1947 Mrs. Milo A~u1:·and Elizaootntown, New York Dear Mrs. Durand: Your letter postmarked November 5, 1947, has been received and I do want to thank you for writing as you did . The patriotic motives t'lbich prompted your suggestions concerning the subject about wh1ch you ho.ve written are indeed app1•eciated. Sincerely yours, John Edgar Hoover Director ( COMMUNICATIONS SECTION MAILED 11 * NOV 10 1947 P.M. f£DWL IWREAU OF IHVESTISATION u. s. DEl'ARTtmrr OF JUSTICE • \ \ I · " ,. -U /4-.-~~~ ~-....,,,-..,,,.,,(..c.Jr ~ '/ /I\) ~11~ f1._.... J . 0~ k a_ //U~ ~ CL- ~ 'C.,'~ ~ Jw· ,,4t.,;_,,:t;f,J.. J'U/7t/4-. Ct_,,.C'/t_ ~ ~ ~_.,;(JAAA4'J.Y~. / FBI_? f/ F8/ C-O-,,~~~ ~, 1wL~ i~-il ? i · r ( ~v,& uvl~~ .,rTrl.AS.,-1 ~V' ~ ~ / .. ' C , ' 0 _,·..-:: c -­ ii(j , 'i)( ' JJ - ~ . t---v - • r,1~11-"# ~~ ( ~ ' · · ~VI , • ,'fl ~ - ~~ re/lectsJjtdgewood ts a ~ ~ noucnbcr a, 1947 !Jr. Joseph ./41~nc 8071 69th Auc~~a Rtdgouood Brooklyn 27• llco York Dear !Jr. Ontltnc: t~ Your letter datod llo1.1enber 2:, l9d7_, hao bean recetved. The tnj'.o'l"CUJ~ion contatncd 1IIIOORDIW & tn the .ttZco oJ ~hto Bureau hew boon declared ?NDEXED conJ'tdenttal and avatla~le .t,or of.ftctaI :uoc only, and I cm unable ~o bo of any aaatatance ir- to you. I cm eure vou wtll dr.aw no in)'.e7"encc .f:ron ny inability to conply with your reguent. Stnccrely yours~ John Edgar Hoover Director NOTE: Thia tndtvtdual aaked 1uesttons concerning O flytng sa~s and the Bureau 3 tnvesttgat~on of Russtans. Postal Gutde ~-----br__ch oj~ the Brooklyn?lstatton~ _ an__ _ • COMMUNICATtOP»P~ )Ottt Mr. u-. Tols~on E, A, M A I L £ 0 12 ::: gi:~rn - NOV 8 1947 \ l::: lfc::O P..M. l.!r. Rosen - ­ Vr . Tracy~ :g_; tfur-8::e;t:E flAl ltHtW., f)f lli~£8l16ATI0!i ltr. Harbo l!r, I.Ir. !.'.ohr~~~ Penn ng U•===~~O£~P~IUi;;;;lM~(~ll.:Of;J,:.:lt::C£~J I.tr . qulnn T ::~"o:iE= OV~7 ' e Port Allegany, Pa• lonmber 18, 19,1. Pederal Bureau ot Inveatigation, Pittsburgh, Pa• Gentlemen, ~l~owing the appearance in thi• town on Jbvember 6, 1947, or a Mr• J~~ppincott~ .Director of the Eaatern Area, Red Cross, Pittsourgn.Jlia., aa speaker of the eve~r,", at the annual looal Red Croes dinner, I aa told by Dr• H. B, Cro~, local pra.otioing \J dentiat, that in a personal connrea 1 n, lowi:ng the dinner, !lr• Lippincott told him that the •aauoere" reported as seen in "Tarioue parts of the country, were aotually tror:. Spain. He eaid that Mr• Lippincott said tha.t thil! had oeen aeoertained by the Government in r..aahington, but that it 110.a not being made known. He said that. 'r• Lippincott had been in &.trope and interred that he had been in Spain and kr:ew conditions ovor there. Dr. Cranwell ie a man active in the Methodist Chruch and the looal Protestant ens Club, and it is easy to see how tar thie report can be spread. The taot that the Federal Government indorsee the Red Crose makes a atatement of an ofCioial reprenntative ot that organisation almost indisputable. Aa a repreeentatiTe tu ot the Federal Government and ae a o1t11en interested in truth and World peace and racial and religious harmony in our own country, I queation the ad'Yieability or an aooredit.d repreRentatin ot the Red Crose giTtng out thi• information. even "ott the Noord". I thought you might be able to oheok with Mr• Lippin­ cott or his organia.ti:-n. Tours v,..ry truly, r.ll.) ~~ a , "' I ~\ ,,. ~ •• .. , :,~~,: !­ ~ ;, • • .. . '­ \,~, ......._.... -~...~ ~,........~ \':-' ... , .., .,, " .~ "-'~~~' '-..) ~ '­ • ~ ~ ' -y ..... . ' ,j' ~ "" ..i \ .... \:~...... : V ... ' ~ -~ ~ .~,;)., \\ ..::,-,.,;;,. - J..... ~-- ,. '-:t: l:Hl1 - -:: a~, Wd L£ V 9 NVf :;f-1 £\ NVr .. , I', ..J~ w~ 6'1 01 ..,., B~, -f .._ • I .., Miss Uarion DeuBcher January 14, 1948 /j 604 est Mai n Street Menomonee Falls , ¥ts constn Dear Mis s Beusc~er: Your letter of January 5, 1948, has been recetued and I want to t~ank you /or fo rwarding informatton to Me relat tng to the subject you mentioned. The facts you relat ed, however, do not ref lect any violation of a Federal statute ~ithtn the inuestt gative jurtsdtctton of the FBI . T\e thoughts prompting your communtcatton are tndeed apprect ated . Sincerely yours, John Edgar Hoouer Di rector W'N :cm NOTE : Correspondent reports corres pondence she has had with the Ziff-Davis Publishinp Company i n connection with the "flying saucers" which were observed by her brother . She is of the optnton that thts publication may be trying to conceal information related to our Nation ' s s ecu rity and she mentions a threat t~at does not re/en injur y to person or property. ...,ri ~ r ;i;• :z: ~ c..r, I ::, :::0 co~. i,. •""-> .:::­ .0~ 71 0 /)11~ IJ,) -o ::c: .. ..c:.. ~ \/'1/ J ¥ ~ CUMMUNtCATtOHS SECTt MAILED 8 JAN 15 1948 P.M. ffOEll-l llll!t'.AII or ll!V£8TIOATfOI U. S • .ult'~lll!EHJ OF JUSJICf I ·, .J -' d:!O 3 , , I r11, I.I o,•, rid IO 2 E 83.:J ~ ·1r •• - ~ M FEB ~tJ ,s4siIP. I • I F,cbruary 5~ 2948 ~1< ' Fl /;pr,, tt'EOOR'nlW (, - { - J1r . JI. J . liaraliall t'\r 9." Rural Ro tl"ta ona LiiJ\• '.j Ool1'tngton, Oh to Dear llr . 'ar:11ial1: Iour letter dated ,Tammry '29., "].948, has been raoctvcd, and I oont to e~prcaa ny approci~ atton to you Jlor llavtng i:iada 1movn yoU;r vt.et.'\? con­ ccrntng the oottcr you nenttoncd. 0 '? llr, Toloon / ").. llr. £. J.. ~ llr. Cloffn ­ Mr, Olav --::=z ltl)EIAL BUREAU OF IIIIIESTISATIOII ::: ~~.u ~ • OfP,.RTIIEKl Of JUSllCE Mr. Rosen -­ u.s. 11>-. Tracy-­ Mr. l:ian llr. Ournea Mr. Harbo-­ Mr. l!Ohr -­ Mr. Pennington ? )Ir , Qu1M ?811121­ r.10. Room ­ llr. Nease -­ 5 lllso OM<lyt--:----,.: 0 1 ~ stncorely yours_, ~ Jolin Edgar llooucr Dtrector . C.!J ;.o -r; IT1 rT1 <"') CD l'T1 -< CJ'I yJn 'Cf ~ l'T1 I :::, ~ rr, rr. w b­ ' -.... 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Th~a •nclosuro is a con£ident1al letter addre•a•d to the Camnanding Generals ot the First, Secom, Fourth, Tenth, Eleventh, and Fourteenth Air Foroea, Air Defense Comnand, from Head­ quarter•, Alr De£enae Comnand, ¥1tchel Air Force Baae, New York, by oo'll'me.nd 0£ Lieutenant General STRAfDtEYER. It conoerna the inveatigation ot flying d.iacs by Air Foroe personnel. You~ attention is particularly called to Paragr~~h 2, whioh indicates that certain r•ports ~onoerntni the imeat1gation or flying disos by Air Force Intelligence ~\ll be r•por~•d to ~he FBI office concerned. Your attention ia further called to 2 Paragra.~h -B, •hich iud1oatea that "imeatigationa will be coordinated with the FBI Off'ice oonce---.d 11 - < ;> - , • .., • • •• • • • • ' J,.i .. L~i L ,,,1 - COIJUl:a d I.naamuch as the,. recent inatruotiona of the Headquartere, Air Defense t ~- n • l!H.ahell Air Foroe b..ae, New York: are contrary to the illltnictions con- a.uied in Bureau Bull t 4 - N 57 • · ia indicated that 11• .u 0 • , Series 1947. dated Ootober 1, 1947, in which~~ referred t 0 th • ~uture report, OOIU:lected with flying diaoa should 'ti. 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() ';r1 (?>~ i ' ,,. 80HFfBEli'fIAb Headquarter• Air Defense CoDnand Mitchel Air Force Base, New York 4 February 1948 D 333.5 (CIB) SUBJECTs Invutigation and Reporting of "Flying Disc" Incident• T01 Comnanding Generals, First, Seoond, Fourth, Tenth, Eleventh, and Fourteenth Air Foroes, Air Defense Command ATTNs AC of S, A•2 1. The numbered air forces of this command are responsible for the prompt investigation and reporting of inoidenta relating to "flying disos'' which occur within their respeotive areas. Numbered air force A•2s, after evaluating disc incidents, will detennine the extent of investigation. Futile expenditure of military funds and manpower must be avoided. 2. "Flying discs" will be investigated as provided for in Counter Intelli• genoe Incident Cases, taking cognizance of the USAF Operating Intelligence Echelon structure. Where it ia evident that witnesses, who were together at the time of incident but who are widely separated at the time of investigation would corroborate each other's story, only one witness need be interrogated. If there is a reasonable indication that a reported incident ia a hoax or the fabrication of a publioity seeking individual, no further investigative etfort will be expended. However, a report of such eiroumstances will be auanitted to the FBI offioe concerned. a. CIC personnel attached to the numbered air forces of this command may be utilized to prosecute the investigation of subject inoidents. b. Investigations will be coordinated with the FBI Office concerned in accordance with instructions contained in letter, thi• headquarters, D 333.3 EX, subjeot, "Cooperation of FBI with AAF on Investigation of •Flying Diao' Incidents," 3 September 1947. 3. Report• will be narrative in style and will cov$r only those faota pertinent to the subject. Where aouroe credibility cannot be eatabliahed, or when an incident lacks foundation, the report will merely atate aame. Two types of report will be subnitted on all inoidenta. a. Spot ~•ports (fragmentary reports) will be subnitted on all incidents and will be followed by a Letter Report. b. Letter Reports will be subnitted to report the completed inTeatigation of all "flying diso" incident•• 4. Reports will be aul:mitted in duplicate promptly, usually be regular mail. However, Spot reports on incidents of substantial character, 1. e., thoae in which the patent credibility of the witness is beyond challenge and whoa )eohnical fto,~1' ◄ I ' baokg ,..,,_tible with his observations of an ooourreme obviously not atmo- . spherio- G ~eft\al phenomena, may be transmitted by TWX. Reporta will be submitted directly to J.••4~rters, USAF, ATTN: Directorate of Intelligence, Air Intelligence Requiremed•'f'B$ol\. One 1.nformational copy of each report submitted will be for­ warded to this command, ATTN, AC of S, Intelligence. Reports will be claesified at least CONFIDENTIAL. BY CCMMAND OF LIEUTENANT GENERAL STRATENEYERs RICHARD W. GEUSS Captain, USAF Aotg Asst Adj Gen .,. - . SAC, San Francisco February 20, 1948 0 til ector, FBI "] • J 1ttn1W1LYING DISCS I ,,'-\ \ G SECURITY MATTER - X ~ Reference is made to your letter in the captioned matter dated February 12, 1948. You are adVised that Bureau Bulletin No. 57 dated October 1, 1947, still applies with respect to flying discs. The Bureau is conducting no investigations concerning flying discs. We will, however, give the Air Forces any information which comes to our attention and will receive any information which the Air Forces volunteer. • The Headquarters of the Air Forces 1n Washington are being contacted by the Bureau in order to insure that there is no misunders~ing as to the . Bureau's position in this matter. r-.., RGF:rb ' ... . - .. i .:13/1( J0 'l<130 s·r. I9d H00l:l 11VI ·03Al33.3b .. STANDARD FORM NO. e4 Office Me~ .andum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT • TO Mr. Ladd DATB: 3/1/48 IC', Tolson :-: ~ie~ Tamn=== FROM V. P. Ke : : g~!;r~--­ : : lfi~g- _ _ oIB _ SUBJECT: j FLYING DISCS : : ~~:--­ SECURITY MATTER - X : : ~.:'.="·===== :: : ~~~:.::,,~·-:,,,-;..-::.== Mr . PeM1 Eon J r.io~UJ~ ~ IC'. Neas Reference is made to a memorandum to you f'rom Mr . J. P. Coyne • • L s in the above- captioned matter dat~~ February 19, 1948. The memorandum indicated that the ~an Franc:h.sco 1 Field Di vision had re·ceived a letter from the headquarters of the Air Defense Command, Mitchel Air Force Base, New York, dated February 4, 1948, entitl ed, urnvestigation and Reporting of 'Flying Disc' Incidents." This communication indicated that investigations should be coordinated with the FBI. The Agent in Charge of the San Francisco Field Division inquired as to a change in policy r egarding the investigation of flying discs. A letter was forwarded to San Francisco advising them that there had been no change in the Bureau's policy. This matter has been discussed by Special Agent S. W. ·Reynolds of the Liaison Section with Lieutenant Colonel C. P. Martin of the Intelligence Division of the Air Force. Colonel Martin advised Mr . Reynolds that apparently the Air Defense Command at Mitchel Field was not aware of the fact that the Bureau was no longer conducting investigations regarding flying discs. He stated that he would take the necessary action and straighten out the Air Defense Command as to the present policy regarding incidents of flying discs . . JtECO'RD~ I ~ - o·_:) / :p-J.\•~ -· _ll-i, I vj,_;_ -1 Jk ~r 29 MAR 9 I 5./ , "{}.A~·•vv (/ • to whether there has ' STANDARl:>l'ORMN0.64 oNI TEn sTATEs GovERNMENT Office Memorandum • • TO Mr. D. M. D ATE: FROM J. P. Co , i~,y~ SUBJECT; ~ FLUNG DI S SECURITY MATTER - X 1 The attached ·1H.r flom,the San Francisco Field Division dated February 12, 1948, raises the question as been a change in policy concerning the investigation of flying discs. RECOMMENDATION:, It is reco!!lTJ).ended that the information contained in the attached letter be discussed by the Ll.aison Section with the Air Forces. ACTION: A letter is attached to San Francisco advising them that there has been no change in Bureau policy. RGF:rb ... FEB ZQ I 38 P~ '~8 ilE CE P~E t:- t. A!Ii: F B I ··' 5. 0Ef'1 OF J l; S '!'!C f. j • .. . . S'YVLES BRIOGES. N. H., CHAl"MAN ·• CHAN GtJRN£Y, • C. OAK. • £NH. , KENNETH MCKE:L C. WAYLANO,OROOK\, ILL, CARL HAYDEN, ARlZ, ~~:iHM.;,~~..:.~.:!·. ~~~~::.~~l:=~~D. HOMER FE"'3USON, MICH_.1 RICHARD B, RUSSELL. GA, KENNCTH S. WHERRY, NEBR. PAT MCCARRAN, NEV. GUY CORDON, DREG, JOHN H, OVERTON, LA. LEVERETT SALTONSTALL, MASS, JO.PH C, O'MAl-tONEY, WYO. MILTON R, YOUNG, H .. OAK, TMEOOCUUi FRANCIS GREEN, R. I, COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS WILLIAM P. KNOWLANO, CALIP', HEN.RY C. DWORSHAK, IDAHO EVERAR.D H • .SMITH, CLERK CECIL H. TOLBERT, ASST, CL.Due March 22, 1948 Honorable J. Edgar Hoover, Director Federal Bureau of Investigation Department of Justice Washington 25, D. c. Dear Mr. Hoover: Attached you will find letter which may or may not be of interest to your office. However, I felt it should be passed on to you for whatever the infortn,3tion is worth. Kindly return my constituent' s letter although if you wish you make a copy of it. Cordially yours, If KSW:emn-3 l 'M.01~ KEOOH,DED Enc. & I~ "4:-8-fl//-, •Itf ~ INDEXED 31 MAR 27 1948 v ' .> C 0 .. • • p y Benkelman, Nebraska Ma reh 14, 1948 Mr. Kenneth Wherry United States Senate Washington, D. c. Dear Ur . Wherry: On March 13 at 2:30, M.S.T. o'clock in the afternoon I witnessed a strange sight in the sky traveling at a very high rate of speed at a very high altitude. I was first attracted to this sight by a noise of motor or whatever it was. It sound_ to me like that of a train r~mbling in the distance of from 10 t~ 12 miles on a still day. At first glance it looked like it might be a vapor trail left by a high flying plane. But the white streak that was in the sky never changed its shape or did it change in the di recti on of travel. It traveled much faster than any plane I have seen traveling in sky high enough to leave vapor trai 1. As near as I can describe this sight was that it might appear to be a stream lined train traveling at a very high altitude at very high rate of speed. This rocket or whatever it might have been was high enough to disappear from sight while it was yet very far above the hori2on. I am not writing this so that it might seem to be another disc, fan or whatever you might call them . I just saw this and it has been on my mind ans I thought if there was anything that I could be of help to solve this thin g I would write this to you and you can forward this to the proper Dept. if it is necessary. Thanking you kindly Yours Truly /s/ Kenneth ~Frasier &JCLOSURE P.S. This object was traveling from east to west. It looked 1ike it might have trave led over Denver, . ·"' C • • 0 • p y KENNETH L. FRAZIER • Colo. or a little to the south. I live almost due east about 180 mi. by air and I looked to the south a l ittle to be able to get sight of object. This object was also witnessed by my son who was with me at the time . I saw the smoke cloud left by so called meteor which exploded ouer at Norton_Kans. This object was not~ br ight ball of fire like it was . The siluer streak in the sky traveled as if it were a long connected ~treak. This did n~t resemble a line of smoke left by a train travel tng along it moued altogether as a unit. If it is not against any regulation and if possible would like to have answer to this object . C 0 p y - . l!arch 241 1948 Honorable K•nneth..__B. United S:tates Senat• Waahtngton, D. c. JJy dear S11na-Oor: Tour letter o/ l!arch 221 29481 wtth encZoeurs# has Men recstved. Stnoe ths eubJ•ct aattsr menttoned tn your oon­ stttuent's lettsr ts not within the scope o/ authortty o/ thta Bursau1 I have taken the ltberty o.f .forwarding a copy o;t hta latter and yours to .tM ~ecrstary o/ the Amy, llattona1 D6/,nae Butldtng# ashlng­ ton 1 D. c . # /or hta tn/ormat1on. Your thought/ulness tn brtngtng ~hje to my attentton ta tndesd apprectat•d• I aR •noloatng a copy o/ my letter to JJr. Frasier whtch I thought you mtght like to have /or your /tles# together wtth hta lettflr. Utth ezpreaatons o/ my h1gheat esteea and beat regards, Since rely yours 1 -• Eagar o~ve,::'.\.i1> ,,~ ~ EnclosJ_e 1 Incomi; from Frasier and cop~, of our letter to VWP:jec ' ~ e-­ .... '-""I COMr.UlNICATIO 'S SES'tiO~ II 1 MAILED 3 * MAR 2iJ 1948 f,;.. , ~~ fittliA&. BllltEAU OF IN~ESTHiATIOlt , 8. DEPARTMENT Of JUSTICE ..,, . .. .c.. I him. \)J­ . ­ • I • Jiarch 341 1948 RECORDED L,,, ... 3gy ~lt3 Ur. Kennsth L. Fraeter Benk•lman1 Nebraaka Your letter dated llarch l41 l948, to tho Honorable Kenneth s. Wherry, United State• Senator, has been re/erred to me /or attentton. Stnc• thtt mattar you i:zeni1oned ta not wtthtn the scope oj authorttu of thta Bureau, I have taken the ltberty o/ jurntah­ tng a oopy of your communicatton to the Secratary o/ ~he Armu, National Ds/enas Eutldtng1 Uashtngton, D. a., and in tha event you haue anu addittona2 tn/or:n.atton, jt is auggeated you aay destre to communtcats wtth h,n. B'incer•211 11ours1 i .. Ba&ar Hoover ..Tohn Edgar Hoouer Dtrector ~ J (r: r-..: CC: Senator Wherry - ~ r1' ~ ~ ~ rr: (O Name of to111n per Postal Gutde 0 ..... - ~ ..... - . ,_ t:' ... ~ VWP:jec ~ ":'I COMM CATIONS SECTION j AILED :3 * ftiAR 2r, 1948 P.M. r.. . . • ' STYLES BRIDGES, N, H,, CHAU\ CHAN GURt-&Y, S. OAK, KENNETH MC • C. WAYLAND BROOK&, ILL. CARL HAYDDI CLYDE M, RE£0, KANS. ELMER THOM. JCifSE:PH H. BAL~ MINN. MILLARD E, T HOMER F'ERGUSON, MICH. RICHARD 8. Rl KENNETH $. WHF.RRY, NEBR. PAT MCCARRAt., NltV. GUY CORDON, OREG. JOHN H, OVERTON, LA. LEV£R£TT SALTONSTALL, MASS, JOSEPH C, O' MAHONEY, WYO, MILTON R. YOUNG, N. OAK. THEODORE FRANClS GRE£N, R. I. COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS WILLIAM F. KNOWLAND, CALIF, HENRY C, DWORSHA.t<, ID.AHO April 1, 1948 EVERARD H. SMITH, CLERK CECIL H. TOLBERT, ASST. CL.ERK The Honorable J. Edgar Hoover Federal Bureau of Investigation United Stat es Department of Justice \'~ashington 25, D. C. Dear Mr. Hoover: 'tJ:tank you very much for forwarding Mr. Kenneth L~ asier , letter to the proper authorities. Your cooperation in this instance was aeeply anpreciated. ---::...----- • llnihb 8tate.s ilepartment of 1.fmitice Post Office Box 1850 Atlanta 1. Georgia August 10, 1948 AIRMAIL SPECIAL D!J'.,IV]J.RY Director, J'l3I Rill ' MRS. MADBLINE G~ER~; INFOBMA.TlOB! CONC:&RNING Dear Sir: f-.L I;11 Co })1 ~ c....) Transmitted herewith for the ltureau 1s information are copies of a letter, together with enclosure, froa the aboTe captioned individual.. I:aaa1111.1ch aa there is n.o record in this office concerning captioned person, no reply has been made to instant letter. with the tho~t the Bureau may desire to acknow­ le~e instant coll!llWlication or communicate further concerning the matter with the Dallaa Office. For the information ot the Bureau and the Dallas and San Antonio Officea, the clippiDgs referred to are transmitted herewith to the l3ureau, Dallas and San Antonio Office•, it being noted that Wichita ll'alla it covered by Dallas and !'ort Sam Hous­ ton is covered by the San Antonio Office. Very truly yours, " J K J ENCL ~ hI Enclosures - 5 cc-Da.llae (Enc--3) AMSD cc-San Antonio (Enc-3) AMSD J.J'F: SL ,: Oib. ' t. 1e Nu{ l 8 I ,... Elltt r 2Et11(:UU ~.- C1 UG' ..~ r • r nft it • • utl. fo 'f:S.fS'J.! • ! ti t"n!!J' Ocf) .r ;;i;o.r ""~ .t ~,:o :+ ·,ocr ~i~~a90 , I ~~nPf~A $-i\eI . OI U1~!.J.A 1r:W:tbi.ai: m1tm1-0 ~ Lxm<IAM . ~nM : .. -Oti!ill!i;,.OliCC uCI~A~~.1I f)'!;G l!OlJ--r:l·,£,(Jl:.il 3 1.usawC: g{j -ro'.t ,dj.i. /~(1! l>ej;tl:lf!<'f!.B"!"T. "v-0d'.s &rlt no'l''i ,o-:i:ucefon8 ,rl;thi -:redfo~o;t ,'l'.e.t.tel .a 'Io t:.s.tqoo .r;;i;!t.t .n.l. ~-xooe·r on ei e·1eJ!:t e£ sb1.1i:1M.a.I .. .f.Br1IH:-:-.1r:.a.t be.nol!cp.,o ot efirt.ai no~rl e ~d "(;!qo·t on .00:::1:x cr beno.h.to:et. ~c1rr;raoaoo o:>1:'ilo --woc&.io o:i e·dr.eb \;;Bil! .u.:.wwtt ed.t jd.,-:i.JJo{i;t o!'U :i,iHw •"it> ~.1 e.r j nBi1an l • a.i:n'.t9~J.CI0.0 •.r9'.{j•u11: e;tz;.,.:.J:ItrX:::OtJ 'tO ao,i;j :.,i.rU.Jir.Wl(I:> .ta.eJSlti cli,f)~! ..t'd:'::'-0 eD.u'.nO: &d;t .d,t.~w ·:to:t.tsu srla • bt.UJ e~II.e.(I orl.t baa us&~m.~ ent ~o aolfr~~~o":Lai arlt ~Q~ ,n9;tjlf!IS£1ll'lj ~'Ie o.t bane':t9'l e~.h'qi.!o eM t880:t'fi0 o!.nc):tuA .nsc:. ·'.!tieo H. ,s0 ~J:'l:':t0 cko.tri.A .a,1i;: !l!m "'!l!.!.GCI • .:men.Rt of.J oit ~1:w!l't•1i ~".u,-,U f!J3o .t-xo'! .61!~ as.U..:tt ~cf b9'Ievo') Bi a!.~r.r oit'.t.d.oU! ~£:.ti:t !.aacu . s:>i'i:10 oi:.C1c:;t11A ua2 etl..'. 'ltd" bs·t3vo~ a.:. noJ­ aeMA ( f. ...•,nd cs.r.racr-:..:> (t~oo~) olnojr.J~ n:.a~~o 3J'1Sf\r j U !.d3U ~ ' 1 I 8 :J uuto:ns 1'N'631-., JV, ~ij uE 6 ll oov QjAl.iJJI • 100M Authority: NND90986 HE~DQUARTERS AIR MATERIEL COMMAND MCIAXD-3/FWA/aw IN REPLY ADDRESS 10TH COMMUNICATION AND EN• Wright-Patterson AF Base ,,. VELOPE TO COMMANDING GENERAL, A IR MATIERIEl l«IIJIJ(ll9 ••••••;,.-., COMMAND, A T T S N T I O N FOLLOWING OFFICE SYMBOL: 9 September 1948 MCUX0..3 Director Federal Dlresu of Investigation Department of Justice Washington. D. C. A!l'l!N: FBI Laborator,y &IBJ'RCT: Projeet "SIGN" Gentlemen: Accompanying this letter is a small sample of soil. This eoilr ~s taken from a depression reputed to have been caused by a'-.Bflying S81l.cer11 described as being approximately two feet in diameterand. one foot thick which. supposedly settled gently to the ground, rebounded to a height of abou.t twenty feet and then contimed. on its journey. Al.though. the declivity was immedi­ ately covered by a large washtub a heavy rain fP.1bsequently filled ~ the depression about one/third full of water before any sample of dirt could be taken. In an effort to approach this incident objectively to deteI"'­ mine every possible clue, it bas been deemed advisable to have this soil sample analyzed and tested. Upon inquiry, your ~n representative stated that the FBI Laboratoey would accomplish the required. tests. Dt.O. / .., / ! / £CO~ h - - ,,, / ' It is the desf re of this Head.~1.arte»s-48--&seep-t,ein, in par 1­ cu.lar, if there are traces of unusualReme~ or &.loys adhering to the surface of the particles, o~lf 91V :reJSnb!MaJ i ty in structure exista aho~ that the soil ms su~;•~intense beat, ll"-""" or radio-active subst?.DCes. etc. Unfor • y, in this regard, no one thought to forward a. sample ~unding the de­ pression 80 no comparison of soils can be made at this time. ~d the subsequent test show qthing unusual some arrangement could be made to procure some ,of the surrounding soil 80 that a comparative analysis could be ma.de. The aceomp~ing sample bas not been test­ ed by any other agency, nor will it be. J ~ }'J!v~ {J.t_p,,,v q f' ·~ ~ COPIES DESTPC''{;fl 27 0 NOV 181964 'I • • .­ Project "SIGN" 9 Sept 1948 Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation In the event the tests show nothing warranting further investige,.­ tion you~ dispose of the sample. The report should be addressed to this Command marked for the attention of MCI.AX0-3. This Division will appreciate your cooperation in this matter. Very truly yours, ,~~W~ Incl W. R. •GEE!MAN fi f~ a~;fF Colon USAF Chief, Technical Intelligence Division Intelligence Department 2 REPORT of the /_\==f}2J t l}=7\ ~ 1..A.BORA.TORT 2-s,__ FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION WASHINGTON D. C. To: OOt.obc- ?, 1948 Ca::m.Ttdi~ Oeaeral Air U..t«riel Como.lid Wright-Patterson AF Bue ~, Obio At.tentiont 1JClllO.i.3 There tollcinl "1M Npc,.n ot the WI Labcrator., «i tho ~t.ion Re: ot e'f"idenoe r-eceiTed .trc:im YOU' otf'iee on s~~ ~ ~ ---· ·- \) John Edgor Hoover, Director YOUR FILE NO. FBI FILE NO. LAB. NO. Exot'Nj....e~ Elracl.naUon of Soil Referen,e: RECORDED - ~ ~-146 PC-231J.2CO Specim• ns: Addreu• IAtter dated Septm'ber 9, 1948 lt1craeoopia,,(M.rogrepbto-Geol.ogi.c) ... L-.40 • FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGA. N UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE Laboratory Work Sheet ........OORDED 9/22/48 kag 9j3£ 62- 83894-146 v Be: Project "SIGN" File# PC-23142 CO Examination of Soil. Lab. II Commanding General, Air Materiel Command, Wright-Patterson Examination requested by: ll:f AF Base, Dayton, Ohio Attention: ~CIAX0-3 Date of reference communication: letter 9/9 Date received: 9/17 Evid . 9/14 Reg.1171535 Examination requested: Micro (Petrographic- Geologic) Result of Examination: Examination by: JEVOJJS ~l, Sample of soil. .. e ~ERALBUREAU OF INVESTIG _.,.LTED S'l"ATES DEPABTMENT OF :i Laboratory Work Sheet RE'-0-:"ttJ'F.D 9/22/4$ Kai Be: File II till 62-33894-146 Pro.,.ct "5 G 11 Lab. Ii PC•2Jli.a CO Enid.nat.ion ot Soil. Comand111 General, Air Materiel Coca:,.and, flri.cnWatt.eracn Examination requested by: ID Ar Dan, Dayton, cJno At.tent,t en, Oll.I0-3 Date of reference communication: letter 919 Date received: 9/l? ~Yid. 9/ 14 Reg.1171,)S Examination requested: icro (Pet.ro .rapbic-0.oloslc) Result of Examination: Examination by: JGftlS Specimens submitted for examination Ql, SUlple ot ao1l. • • \ . ' ' . . .. .,... k . - . ~ '} ' ~ RECORDED· 51 \ __: __ _/ F B I ~ 23 OCT 22 ,948 ~ ~ B 1 I ; ni:p· ,~ 'I JqlCt ...,... . - . ; . • . - I .. .,,, ... • ' j ••-'; , • October :1.9. 1948 J 1 ta Xour 1.ett. r d!l't 4d UclObcr 15. 1948. bna be r cived end J db veut to tbsnk you for the patriOUc cot1v s tiJltch proi.,pt~ ycu to t.lritce aYa1loble 70V ~~ts conce~ tho cubJect YoU tte:it1one4. Sincerely vours, ftOERAL BUREAU OF IHVt:SllGATIOII U S. OEPARTr.lEIIT OF JUSIICE • I J.,. , -, ' --- -& \ $ cit ,, ei 0 1T, 'JI ,~t· 'ii iJ I Zi ,---.3..lIC\M ll lJO,, _9 a"°i o~ roo 'I)/ ~ ------ .'ti! - u~ .'6i'. ~ ="' -~­ l ice of Contents from BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION .•ottINGTON, D. C . ' Date~------------­ October '7, 1948 Consigned to·• ""Co-nwn-.._,d:tlln......,'!W'"""'tl""e"""t1eral A:tr Materiel Cormland WrigJit-fatteraon M tmse n,.yton. Ohio List of tJiJFe~tins lfCIAXO-.) f:co:':MM::':U~N~IC~AT".'""10-NS--SE_C_TI_ON- ro,..23142 CO MA( Leo 1 * OCT '!18 1940 P.M. f'El>£RAL Bcaou Of IN\'[8Tf6ATIOH U, 8. OEl'ARTIIEHT Of JUSTICE Mr. Barbo, '1641 Mr. Conrad, 7142 t __ Mr. Downing, 6228 B _ Mr. Sizoo, '1601 'LI-/ Mr. Baughman, '11 1 ~ 7 9 7 c; 9' "I Io/itj,r/1-{ , _ A~••__;. RIDISTERrotAIL .(?-__v ;./~~~ ../r SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS: Mai ~ J-1om, place date of shipment and registry number; Shipping Room , show ate of shipmrp't awjt,i t.~a.l tf~invoi ce; then return it to person whose name is checked 1in column at ight. After this ''Ji?H~ect"name has been initialled, invoice should be placed in administrative fil e. A ENTION FLY ·bo Mr. fllollr I 1,lr. p,-,, 'i,--t .. ,, moAl IURCAU OF tNVtSTtQATION U. S. OEPMTMOCT Of JUSTICE COMMUNICATIONS SECTION • I\ ANGELES 12- 28 - 48 AND SACS HOUSTON, CINCINNATI URGENT I NSPECTOR HOWARD FLETCHER Mr Q ,., ' m G ~, LONN IE EDWARD"-NOACK COMPLAINT. RE HOUSTON TELE~Yii, <a_ 1/ OEC . TWENTY EIGHT . MR . R. C. PERSONS, VASCO .l!bemc ELECTRIC MMTIJVlfAcfll/NG COMPANY, LA, PRESENTLY I N ARIZONA, EXACT WHEREABOUTS UNKNOWN TO HIS OFFICE, EXPECTED TO CALL MORNING OF DEC. TWENTY NINE. MR. NATHAN SMITH, SMITH MANUFACTURING COMPANY, SOUTH PASADENA, CALIF . ADVISED HE - . AND PERSONS PURCHASED AIRPORT IN MOJAVE DESERT NEAR HELENDALE, CALIF . STATED THAT IN EARLY PART OF DEC. EXACT DATE UNKNO_#i', PERSONS ADVISED HIM H~ HAD FOUND A FLYING DISK ON THEIR AIRPORT. MR. AND MRS. SMITH, PERSONS, AND LONNIE~OACK PROCEEDED TO AIRPORT WHERE THEY LOCATED DISK, TOOK PICTURES OF IT AND REMOVED .. PORTIONS OF DISK, NOACK RETAINING SOME PARTS AND SMITH KiEPING SOME PORTIONS WHICH ARE STILL IN HIS POSSESSION . SMITH ADvISED THAT DAY AFTER LOCATINGfrHE DISK AN EMPLOYEE CBSERVED PARTS RETAINED BY SMITH, AND STATED HE BELIEVED THE OB~ECT HAD BEEN MANUFACTURED BY OLSEN AND RICE MANUFACTURING COMPANY, TOY MANUFACTURERS LA . SMITH STATED HE THEN CONTACTED OLSEN AND RICE WHO STATED THEY WERE FIN­ ANCING CLAUDE LERO~OLFERT LA IN DEVELOPING A KITE FOR •1tlllf SALE ON OPEN hARKET AS A TOY. SMITH STATED HE HAD PREVIOUSLY GIVEN OLSEN AND RICE PERSMISSION TO USE HIS PRIVATE AIRPORT AT ANY TIME. OLSEN AND RICE TOLD SMITH THEY HAD TAi~ XPERIMENTAL KITES TO SMITHS/ END PAGE ONE RECORDfl};; t ~ ~ } --Jf:..1 :LI:: - ~ / 1NOEXEtJ - 08 ~­ •-s (t G OEC 30'Q48 J 5 1~~ gz~'O • • ' ., ..t> ,.,, __, m .., , n, < F'l 0 ..., .r r-. t ' rl'l 'O -, ..,.. ', ! . .. t:: !Tl .0 • • . , PAGE TWO AIRPORT AND UPON DETERMING KITES NOT PRACTICAL HAD ABANDONED THE PROJECT. SMITH STATED HE HAD TAKEN SIXTEEN MM PICTURES WHICH ARE PRESENTLY BEING DEVELOPED. STATED WOULD MAKE PICTURES AND PARTS FROM OBJECT AVAILABLE TO THIS OFFICE . SMITH DESCRIBED OBJECT AS APPROXIMATELY SIX FEET IN DIA­ METER, CONSISTING OF DISK MOUNTED ON AXEL WITH BEARINGS, WINGS ON EITHER SIDE, TAIL SURFACE SUPPORTED ON BOOMS, CUP MOUNTED ON EACH WING TIP RESEMBLING ROCKET POWER CONTAINERS . SMITH STATED DID NOT OBSERVE ANY CHEMICAL OR OTHER MATTERIAL IN CONTAINERS WHICH COULD BE USED AS SELF PROPELLING FORCE . MR . HENRY T. RICE OF OLSEN AND RICE MAN­ UFACTURING COMPANY ADVISED CLAUDE LEROY WOLFERT FINANCED BY THEIR COMPANY IN DEVELOPING TOY KITE, THAT WOLFERT HAD PROACHED IDEA OF MAKING LARGE MODEL TO BE USED AS TOW TARGET FOR AIRPLANES BUT RICE DECIDED THAT HE MAKE . ONLY KITE SUITABLE FOR SALE AS TOYS . JIU Ill( HOWEVER, WOLFERT MADE LARGE MODEL APPROXIMATELY SIX FEET IN DIAMETER, WEIGHING FIFTY POUNDS, WHICH TOGETHER WITH OTHER MODEL HAD BEEN FLOWN IN DC THREE OWNED BY OLSEN AND RICE TO PRIVATE AIRPORT OF ..MU:llllli PERSONS AND SMITH. RICE COULD NOT RECALL EXACT DATE, BUT_, STATED MWllf IT WAS IN EARLY PART OF DEC . RICE STATED DIFFICULTIES ENCOUNTERED IN FLIGHT OF KITE, AND THAT IN VIEW OF SIZE OF LARGE MODEL IT WAS NECESSARY TO TOW IT BEHIND PLANE TO OBSERVE FLIGHT . STATED MODEL CRASHED AND OLSEN AND RICE ABANDONED EXPERIMENT LEAVING AIRPORT WITH WOLFERT REMAINING BE­ HIND TO CONDUCT FURTHER EXPERIMENTS . RICE STATED DID NOT KNOW THAT WOL­ FERT HAD LEFT THE LARGE MODEL AT THIS AIRPORT UNTIL ADVISED BY SMITH END PAGE TWO • • ~ i-., ('"') r-...> .::0 r--(.) r IJJ -,;, -c: .. c:. -x:, .xi n ~ rn < m 0 l "'1'J rrr -,,, ,:; • n ".Cl • .., PAGE THREE THAT THEY HAD FOUND THE OBJECT. CONTACT WILL BE MADE WITH SMITH, RICE, AND WOLFERT, TO SECURE PHOTOGRAPHS AND SAMPLES. BUREAU WILL BE ADVISED. HOOD END A IN ORDER PLS A 7- 45 PM OK FBI WASH DC WJR HKBllUMilVHBH ~SMR OK FBI HO UICF CI OK FBI CI JW CISC • ... .... RE'CEIVEO TELETYPE UNIT Dre 29 7 a.1 PH •~8 F.8.1. DEPT. OF JUSTICE ..._, ,..t1 !"Tl n C"") , -..J m ..:0 < 11 ;;::) (• I ..,, :::­.., -, TJ '\:I ""= _.. c; .., STAN0...~0 ~OR,-, "° 6A • Office M emor! ndum • uNtrno sTATEs GovERNMENT DATE , December 28, 1948 '¼..ITO , MR. D. M. LA: _& ~ IC'". Tolson__ FROM : H. B. FI.ETC~ Jlf llr. ~legg wr. Glavin_ _ ::: ~~~:~1~·=== Yr. Rosen Mr. Tr&CY__ SUBJBCT: O FLYING DISCS __ ::: =:=..=---=---_­ Mr. Harl>o__ Mr. ll<>hr.~......--­ wr. Pennlngtori_ Mr. QU!llll tam_ Tele. Roo•­ At J..0':boa .m. today, SAC Willis, Houston, called in and stated llr. Nease__ WISS llolJIIJO__ that Full~ackwell, a busin?ss man~ Housto~, Texas, had furnished WleO Go.nc!y__ certain pictures taken by a friend of his, Lo~ack of the Humboldt Oil Company, Houston, Texas, and had related that Noack had been flying with a friend in a private plane from California to Houston and that at a point about 30 miles east of Lone Pine, California, some object lying on the ground made a very strong reflection and they made a check to determine what would cause this bright reflection. They finally landed the plane and found an object which could be described as being 8 1 in diameter with wings about 4' long. The object is about 1 1 in thickness and in the center there appears to be some type of gyroscope. The wings apparently are fitted with some type of jet propulsion. An examination was made by Noack and his friend and they could find no identi.f.'ying marks and took photographs of the object they observed. SAC Willis stated he had informed Lieutenant Robert Fleming of the ill', Ellington Field, and Captain Bush, the Army representative in Houston, of this object and that Noack would be interviewed that morning in the Houston Office with Lieutenant Fleming being present. Lieutenant Fleming wanted the statements of Noack taken down by a stenographer and he will furnish the stenographer for that purpose. I instructed SAC Willis to funti.sh complete details of this matter by idr mail special delivery, including a copy of the photograph. I further instructed that he furnish the same details to the proper field office because unquestionably the Bureau would want to run this thing out. After talking with you, I phoned SAC Willis back and told him to insure the presence of a Bureau Agent at the time this object was examined by the Army Air Forces and that he should make proper arrangements with the office in California to see that an Agent was present. I also told him to adVise me /I _ of the developments. f ~ HBF:cmw • • J • c:::::, :-rt != C") ~ !'~ "1 .., CD c::, C") \.\ '; "' m ~ ~..,,~ .~, w . < ,1,, \ c,(DrTl \ ,. .# 0 ~~~) \ ~ ""Tl ~')\~., \ i \ft"' ~ t--➔ I "'~ ~, C :­ Y'.\ ~ V> > ~- .. . ,4: :._-:, ' \ ; ~ n -· CD m i~"" i ~ " ~)~'O \)~"' • Mr. Tolson...... . 1\lr {r. t fEDEIIAl tU"lAU OF IIW(STIQATION U. S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE - • Cle;' .• / COMNUNICA~:N~ ,HIN • "1r. G",ivl , ✓··_ 1 .... .. • DEC ~ 0 o .------­ , ·-·-···--­ • r TELETYPE FB_y1IOUSTON 12-28-48 1- 12 PM CST £rRECTOR , SACS CINCINNATI AND LOS ANGELES URGENT ~ ENTION IN.SPECTOR HOWARD FLETCHER s-<vrNGl?rsK. LONNIE EDWA~ OACK, COMPLAINANT. COMPLAINANT RESIDING TWO NINE TWO ONE CHICAGO STREET, HOUSTON, CONTACTED THI OFFICE DECEMBER TWENTY SEVENTH ON CAPTIONED MATTER AND IN SIGNED \ STATEMENT TODAY SUBMITTED THE FOLLOWING. NOACK , EMPLOYED#AS A MACHINIST BY HUMBLE OIL COMPANY, HOUSTON, LEFT HOUSTON BY COMMERCIAL AIRLINE DECEMBER FIFTH LAST ON BUSINESS FOR HOLLYWOOD , CALIF . ON MONDAY, DECEMBER SIXTH, CONTACTED R. C. PERSON , FOUR ONE ONE SIX AVALON BLVD. , LA., AN ACQUAINTANCE, WHO REMARKED OF HAVING SEEN ON THAT DATE, SOME DISTANCE FROM HOLLYWOOD IN A DESERT AREA , WHAT APPEARED TO BE A FLYING DISK. PERSON OPERATES VASCO ELECTRICAL MANUFACTURING CO. , LA., ADAMS FIVE TWO EIGHT ONE. ON DECEMBER SEVENTH, NOACK, PERSOM, AND MR. AND MRS . NATHAN SMITH, ONE NAUGHT FIVE SOUTH PASADENA AVE., SOUTH PASADENA, CALIF. , DEPARTED BY PRIVATELY OWNED AUTOMOBILE IN SEARCH OF DISK. SAME LOCATED APPROXIMATELY ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILES NORTHEAST OF PASADENA AND ABOUT TWENTY MILES NORTHEAST OF LONE P~, CALIF . PERSON , SMITH, AND NOACK TOOK PHOTOGRAPHS OF Dlt~~• MOV~ NJ)t fJC/lf_ ,.. 5'tJ SPEEDGRAPHIC CAMERAS . THE NOACK FILM WAS EIGHT~1Ik~METERS IN SIZE.J ~ '- IM 4 1949 AND CAMERA MADE BY REVERE . DISK LOC.ATED DESERT~ EA NEAR NINE HUNDRE ~ • :<.' ACRES OF LAND OWNED BY PERSON AS PRIVATE AIRFIELD . NOACK HAD HIS FIL DEVELOPED BY EASTMAN KODAK COMPANY AT UNKNOWN ADDRESS LOS PALMAS ST. ,LA. \'It,,,,~1 l.\i~ ~'V END PAGE ONE RECEIVE0-1..MHl FBI · u. 5. DEPT. OF JUSC!CE RE'rEtVED Or.c 28 3 ss PM 'if8 JAN 6 2 ss PM '~( ~ i c k Nh, -~ tt 1 . •N n~cE1vEn--01REC, F} 8 I ­ r.: B I U.S. of.:ri'T. Uf':,:u:"/tff.€ •'l t;TfCF I ~ -~ • , • # Dre 28 ~ 52 PM '~8 ,... 4 ·-~ .... • . ) • .,. PAGE TWO THESE FILMS RECEIVED NOACK, HOUSTON, BY MAIL DECEMBER TWENTY THIRD LAST . DISK TO BE APPROXIMATELY SEVEN FEET IN DIAMETER f!!:: SHOWS AND APPROXIMATELY TWO FEET THICK IN MIDDLE WITH FEATHER EDGE ON RIM . ABUTTING SAUCER IN MIDDLE AND ON BOTH SIDES ARE FOUR FOOT WINGS RESEMBLING CONVENTIONAL AIRPLANE TYPE . NO MARKINGS, NO RADIO, AND APPEARED TO HAVE LANDED AT GREAT SPEED . DISK IN COMPARATIVELY GOOD CONDITION. THE ENDS OF BOTH WINGS HAD ATTACHED A SMALL ALUMINUM CYLINDER APPARENTLY FOR JET PROPULSION. ONE OF THESE CYLINDERS OBTAINED BY NOACK AS SOUVENIR AND CURRENTLY IN POSSESION OF r_::: OH~cg FILM SIMILARLY MAINTAINED . SA ROBERT FLEMING 1 OSI REPRESENTATIVE, .E,l.LINGTON FlELD~ TEXAS, NOTIFIED DECEMBER TWENT¥ SEV.E.N.IH . NOACK FILM EXHIBITED THIS OFFICE INSTANT DATE AND SHOWS DISK IN ALL POS ITI ONS AND ARE AUTHENTIC . MR . FLEMING, OSI , ON DECEMBER TWENTY EIGHTH NOTIFIED DISTRICT COMMANDER , FIFTH OSI DISTRICT, WRIGHT FIELD, DAYTON, OHIO. SAC R. B. HOOD , LA., NOTIFIED TELEPHONICALLY OF ABOVE INFORMATION - WITH REQUEST THAT HE MAINTAIN CONTACT WITH R. C. PERSON IN ORDER THAT BUREAU- AGENTS MAY ASSIST OR ACCOMPANY OSI REPRESENTATIVES IN ACTUALLY OBSERVING AND ---- ­ RETR I EV I NG FLYING DISK . .. THIS ACTION TAKEN PER BUREAU INSTRUCTIONS . NO FACILITIES AVAILABLE HOUSTON FOR REPRODUC I NG MOVIE FILM OF NOACK, HOWEVER, STILL SHOTS CAN BE DEVELOPED BY COMPETENT END PAGE TWO ... ·, • RECEIVEO-l. /l nfl F B I U. S. DEPT. OF JU ST!CF. Or.c 28 3 ss PM '118 RFrEtVED JAN 6 2 55 PM 'iJI N r .:kNA , , r, . '' ~ N F B·I 1! , flFP' 1;: •• 1 .C: TI Cf • .. • PAGE THREE COMMERCI AL REPRESENTATIVES . ACTION TO BE TAKEN BY OSI, DAYTON, OHIO, NOT KNOWN AT THIS MOMENT AND IT IS POSSIBLE THEY MAY DESIRE FILM FOR REPRODUCTION THEIR FACILITIES THERE. IF BUREAU DES IRES LA OFFICE TO OBTAI N FROM PERSON AND SMITH THE IR FI LM AND NEGATIVES , THIS MIGHT BE CONSI DERED. PICTURES TAKEN BY PERSON WI TH FOUR BY FI VE SPEEDGRAPHIC CAMERA AND THZSE PI CTURES SHOULD BE READ I LY AVAILABLE . NOACK FI LM AND PART OF JET PROPULSI ON WI NG TIP BEING MAI NTAI NED HOUSTON AWAITI NG SUGGESTED DISPOSI TI ON AND HANDLI NG BY EI THER BUREAU OR OSI . CI NC I NNATI OFFICE BEI NG MADE COGN IZANT TO COVER POSS IBILITY THAT BUREAU MAY DI RECT LIAI SON WITH OSL, DAYTON. AMSD LETTER FOLLOWS TO BUREAU AND INTERESTED OFFICES ENCLOSI NG SIGNED STATEMENT OF NOACK. WILLIS END A IN O PLS WA 225PM OK FBI WA LS CI OK FBI CI JCL ~ 1-~ LA OK FBI LA EDS DISCM r~ \JJl;t;Jl • .... RECEIVED TELETYPE UNIT Dre 28 2 29 PH l~8 f .8.1. DEPT. OF JUSTICE 3JHSOf :lO 'ld30 ·s ·o • I 8 :J · u~Jv~·-Ql31\t3J3~ 03"13J3 l:i ' Mr. ToJaon........ Mr. Ce ............ Mr, Gtartu ......... . Mr. Ladd....... . ... Mr. Nichol,......... . Mr. Rosou ......•••• Mr. 'I'rAOJ,'• •• . ...•••• • lib-, E llD .••.••.••••• Mr. PenuiDJton ..... Mr. Qiunn Tiurun ••• IUllEAU Of t1CVE.STIGATIO~ ~otPAATMEMT OF )USTICE .. ;:MUMICATlOMS $ECTIOII • . O£C 291948 -~~ ER .I ff/; ~H 10 FROM LOS ANGELES 29 9-07 PM /DIRECTOR ROUTINE r1,t · / W /1J{;_~/ FLYING DISK, LONNIE EDWAR✓NOACK , COMPLAINANT . !3/J-~~j,.<,( TELETYPES FROM HOUSTON AND LA TWENTYEI GHTH INSTANT, 1!F7W ~ ( THREE PARTS OF SUBJECT DESCRIBED BY r:,cK SECURED FROM NATHAN j ;&ITH, LA AND EXHIBITED TO HENRY 0 rcE, OHLSON AND RICE MANUFACTURING COMPANY , THREE THREE FOUR ZERO EMERY STREETi,~ LA . RICE POSITIVELY IDENTIFIED THESE PARTS AS COMI NG FROM ,A\. MODEL TOW TARGET CONSTRUCTED BY CLAUDE L. WOLFORD, FIVE FOUR FIVE FOUR CHESLEY AVE. , LA. ONE PART BEING STAMPED WOLFORD & WW PLASTICS MOLDING CO. j LA. TOW TARGET WAS TESTED BY RICE AND WOLFORD USING RI CE, s AIRPLANE OVER NATHAN SMITH,s AIRFIELD NEAR HELENDALE, CALIF. THE TEST WAS A FAILURE, THE TARGET CRASHED AND WAS ABANDONED AT THE AIRFIELD. NO FURTHER INVESTIGATION BEING CONDUCTED AND THE THREE ITEMS SECURED FROM I"\ SMITH WILL BE RETURNED TO HIM UNLESS BUREAU ADVISES TO - ...W CONTRARY, REPORT WILL BE SUB!.ITTED, ff:IJ,.-----' HOOD RECORDED. 42 I t.d.=: ',( J§_,9I~ -/ ~ IN D . 4" F " ,. CINCINNATI _!,_AND HOUSTON AJ)V • w. 1.. JAN 3 1949 ~~ - ~_J.t} ACK PLSI~~ ~Vs ✓tJJl'-~ / ~- • • S,'-' ~ i~~ ~ \'v lfr, Neue....... .... , • RECEIVED TELETYPE UNIT ll£c'29 If 1a PM '~8 F.8.1. DEPT. OF JUSTICE • • .. ~ Office Memorandum • lJN lTED STATES GOVERNMENT TO MR. D. M. ~ December 28, 1948 FROM H. B. FIETC~ /J • ::: ~t!:·-­ rn :: ~~1n_ _ 11r. N1cnols_ _ SUBJ ECT: (1'FLYING DISCS IC". Rosen__ .IC'. Traer__ :::=·=·..=== llr- tte.rbo__ llr. llOllr__ Mr. Peph{ngw.Q_ Reference is made to the teletype of December 28, 1948, llr. Quinn Tua_ Tele. Roo■ __ from the Houston Office. Mr. se.aae__ MU• Kolmiio__ At J:JO p.m., I called SAC Hood of the Los Angeles Office and i~cted that he attempt to locate Mr. Person and Mr. and Mrs . Nat~th, secure photographs and film in their possession and also secure from them the location of the described flying disc. I also instructed that Mr. Hood send out sufficient Agents to find the disc~ 1uee / and guard it until it could be properly handled by the appropriate Government -'<...._/_ authority. I also telephoned the Houston Office and told them to send in the photographs or film in their possession, t ogether with the part which had been recovered from the machine by the Informant Noack. At 5 :00 p.m., SAC Hood called back and stated that all work on this matter should be innnediately discontinued. They had managed to reach Mr. Nathan Smith and he stated that he knew al l about this matter; that it was not a f lying disc, but an object which had been identified as a tow Idte, 'Which has a disc center and wings. This Idte is actually made in Los Angeles by the Olson and Rice Manufacturing Company. A call was made to Olson and Rice, who admitted making a kite along the lines described by Mr. Smith and they explained that they had tried to fly it and it had failed and they had abandoned it. Mr. Hood stated he did not have full details at the time of his call, but he did have this report from the Agents. Therefore, I instructed that he call Mr. Willis of the Houston Office immediately in order that the film and the part available to the Houston ·Office will not be forwarded for Laboratory examination. HBF:esb RECORDED -42 INDEXED - 42 a~rs " • • t I 8 :J 8& HV fJl 6 62 1J() 33JH;or :10 ·1030 ·s ·n I 8 ~ lwv·1-03hl333H Oiltl3J3ll . -~ .. ..·oj;;MMemorfffltaum· STAT:rs- GOVE NMtENT. ~ -­ DIRPL"l'OR FBI Bt;ECT! ~ "FLlING SAUO~" OESl!RVED O'Vm 1 .... ...... : ~~£la-~ I L OAK RIDGE AREA '7:/) t·· · ~ INrEmlAL SlOOURITY - X • I/ , ""'"1 ~ --··· x --(;r I. ( I uJ .fA /\ I I ,. ~:;·~D-· ... There are beine submitted herm.th two photographs of ropu ''.fl""'ns saucers"which were seen at Oak Ridee, Tennessee, sometime during Jul,y'fe(' . • All of the 1.nf'ormation contained in this letter was received from Mt-. a; RNmMAlf, Chief Investigator, Security Division, Atanio En«rS7 Ccmnias •••• a Colonel c. D. GASSm1 Resident Jlnsineer, Air Material Carnrnarn1_., United States ~ 1_who ie tho principal army "technioian at the Nuclear ~ ..far__tb.e Pro­ pulsion of Aircraft Research Center at Oak Ridee_, Tennessee. ­ / Mr. RATHMAN advised that the attached photogr:e.phs were taken by w. R. / PRl!SLEY in July of 1947. He stated that interview with PRE3LEY revealed that he had been snappine photographs of bis f'amil.y in front of hie residence at 218 Il11no1s Avenue, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, late in the e.f'ternoon, when he l.ooked into the sky and observed the vapor trail as emibited by the photograph numbered "l." PRESLEY stated that he took a snap of this trail, was winding the film to the next number, when he looked into the sky and"observed the ball of fire as shown in photograph 2. Upon observine the unusual phenomena, he used his last lfilm in tald.ng photograph #2. P.RllSLEY made these photographs available to re­ ,iportere of the Knoxville News-Sentinel and a story concerning them was run 1n that paper; however, as shown by the photostatic copy of the newspaper clippine, whioh is also being submitted herewith to the Bureau, the print was very indis­ tinot; the news story did not contain an:r .factual information; and 1t was regarded generally by the public at the time as a ' ,◊se ~L~le tt-ick. ") 1, Later, it w.a learned by Mr. RA~llDL.• ....nd Colonel G.ASS:HE that PRllSLEY had made several copies of this photograph and had distributed them 8lllOJl8 his acquaintances at Oak Ridge, Tennessee. Upon Colonel GASSl!R'e finding tbat the e__ pho"toei:apha had received some distribution, he requested Mr. RA'IBMAN as Head of the Can:pllance and Investigations DiVision, to recover as many as possible of the photographs, advise the persons in whose possession they were found to say nothing to aeyone concernins them, and to retm-n the said photographs to him f'or traDSmission to the United States Air Foroe Yii'teD..fgence 'Servica. Mr. RAmMAN advises tnat7fe- sucoee'a.ed inrounding up twenty-four copies of these photographs, and that, ac~ordins to the statements of P.RFSLEY, no more copies were made or distributed. RATHMAN further stated that GASSm had appeared extremely concerned over the matter and seemed to be quite emphatic that the mtter should be given no more publloity than was absolutely necessary. RA'lEMAN also advised that he studied the negatives from which the reproductions were mde, and th y appee.red A to be authentic in that trick photography should have been apparent, ut from the ~ RECORDED •}4 i(a ~ l1 r;) .iJ.J..w_ ~~~ F .B ][ / ~ / NOEXED.- 121 /. 3~·JA'149 ~ (v ) '1'1~ . ., r I '­ j \T • r i • r .. , ') . ( . ... J. J • -r • i t • • T C ,:; I , ,T , .. . . ' 3~\1.SM ~O ·1.cf~O·s·n. ·\ 'l\' =' . ~\1, 'ft~ <3S \1 ~ \ t\'3\' NO\l~3S " QS\°1 \'\ >.~'d3~3 ~\\;Ol~ Q-:\~,1~1'r\ • t . \ .. negatives certainly did not appear to be the case. It was Mr. RATEMAN'e observation that had the negative been "doped" with some sort o'f' chemical, it would have removed the emulsion from the 'f'ace o'f' the ril.m in such a way that the ne~tive would have been thin at the point which is supposedly a ball of fire, v'hereas, in fact, both the vapor trail and the corona of fire are dark on the'negative, indicati118 that it was an actual exposure. It was the opinion of Mr•. RATHMAN that the photographs were, withn.ut doubt, authentic. In accordance with Bureau instructions, no active investigation of this ma.tter was made, but it was deemed advisable to interview Colonel GASSER prior to submitting the photographs to the Bureau. Colonel GASSER~ redicp.ted his remarks concerning the "flyi118 saucers" or "mystery missiles" b; fstat~ that he lmew nothi118 of an official nature concerning them, other than the 'f'act that they were believed by air force intelligence officials to be man-made missiles, rather than some natural phenomena. It was his :rurther belief that a great deal of inf'ormation had been compiled concerning these missiles by air force intelligence, and that research on the matter was being extensively done at Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio